August 25, 2011

Why Latter-Day Saints Should Consider Homeschooling

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WARNING: I originally posted this lengthy opinion of mine on my blog, Thoughts from The Hearth back in February of this year. For clarification: Yes, it is long, and YES, it is quite an opinionated piece of writing. BUT, it felt really great to finally say some of the things I've longed to say to the naysayers since I first began homeschooling 12 years ago. That being said, read at your own risk! ;-)

Usually, when other parents find out I homeschool, I get one of two reactions.

1) "Really?! Are you crazy? Aren't you afraid your kids will turn out weird/unsocialized/dorky/uneducated? Why do you think you're qualified to teach your kids everything they're going to need to know?"

OR

2) "Really? Wow. I could never do that. You must be a saint/have so much patience. But, you know, if things ever got bad enough, I'd homeschool my kids, too."

My concern doesn't ever lie with the first response. If I get that reaction, I automatically assume that the person responding is very close minded, and/or lives their life in fear. I have nothing more to say to them on the subject, so I usually just smile and walk away.

However, the second reaction always puzzles me. Today, I'd like to say here what I am not usually brave enough to say to someone's face. *gulp* Bear with me, and know that I love my family and friends. I am not writing this to offend you. But I am in a quandary over the idea of what "if things ever get bad enough" means. 

What DOES it mean???

What constitutes "Bad Enough" for YOU? Because I reached my limits on what's "Bad Enough" years and years ago.

Let me 'splain.


Reason #1 why I think public education is "Bad Enough": 
I believe that PARENTS, not the State, have a divine stewardship to raise and teach children.

Just this morning, parents in two different states got the same reaction on closing school due to weather concerns from school officials in their respective states. In a nutshell, parents were told that they couldn't shut down schools today because of all the students that "needed" to be provided food, warmth, and babysitting services, even when the weather is bad.

To directly quote the Superintendent of Denver Public Schools:
“Equally important in making our decision was the consideration for the thousands of our families of working parents who are on moderate incomes, have few to no child-care options, don't get paid days off from their jobs, and therefore face a huge burden when schools are closed for a second day, while private-sector and other public-sector employers are open.”
“Our schools also serve tens of thousands of children who come from low-income households. Schools are not only are vital places of learning for those students, but they are also in many cases the only place where these students get two free hot meals a day, health care, counseling and support services. We felt it was the right thing to do to give our parents the option of sending their kids to school.”
“We consider our schools to be learning centers as well as community centers where children and families can get help with health and other social-service needs. And we feel an obligation to the public we serve to keep our schools open as much as possible.”
Do you hear what this Superintendent is saying?  He is saying that without the state-run school, "tens of thousands" of students would go hungry, not have health care, counseling, or CHILDCARE. Gee, did this man just say that school is glorified BABYSITTING?! Um, yes. Yes, he did.

Wow. Where, may I venture to ask, are the PARENTS of these children? This school official is telling us that because parents are "low income", they NEED schools to be open, or else they could not parent their children on their own??? If this is true, then our nation and educational system is in a sadder, scarier state than ANY of us could have imagined!

The attitude that "schools parent children better than their own parents" is not new-- not by any stretch. Remember the people that love to question my abilities to homeschool my children? They ask me this because THEY don't feel "qualified" to teach their kids. It makes me wonder why they feel that way, especially if they feel their own public education-- and, consequently, the education their children are getting-- was completely adequate.

I am a HUGE proponent of Parent Rights. I believe that the right to parent comes from God, and NOT the State. When parents believe that others are more qualified to care for and teach their children, they are handing the State the right to parent, teach, and nurture their offspring. So when the state assumes the role of "The Protector" and "The Expert", how can parents be shocked by their audacity?

Here is an example of out-of-control state-run schools. How would YOU like to be graded as a parent?
"Last Thursday, CNN reported that a Florida legislator has proposed a bill that would have public school teachers issuing a grade to parents. Yes, grading the parents. HB 255 provides that “each prekindergarten through grade 3 student report card shall include a section in which the teacher grades the parental involvement as satisfactory, needs improvement, or unsatisfactory…” based on criteria set by the bill."
"The whole idea of setting up public schools as overseers of parents is one more sign that American parental rights are in danger. Parents should not have to answer to government agents unless and until there is solid evidence of abuse or neglect on the part of that parent. Giving a grade to every parent clearly violates this constitutional principle."

"In fact, this bill would espouse the same foundational principle as the UN’s Convention on the Rights of the Child: assume that all parents are bad parents, and that only government oversight can save our children from parental incompetence.
"
Parents should NEVER answer to schools. Rather, schools, teachers, and administrators should answer to the PARENTS in their communities. Do any parents out there disagree with me on that?

Reason #2 why I think public education is "Bad Enough": 
Schools don't actually want students to be literate or think for themselves.
When I felt I should learn more about homeschooling, I studied the history of education in America. Did you know that compulsory schooling laws were not instituted across America until the late 1800's? Did you know that parents used to do the hiring and firing of ALL teachers in their communities BEFORE then? Did you know that education-- actual learning-- in America has gotten worse EVERY YEAR since the institution of compulsory education laws?

If less educated, more ignorant students is the result of compulsory education for all children, then WHY were those laws and ideas instituted?

Professional educator and former New York State Teacher of the Year, John Taylor Gatto explains it this way:
"The structure of American schooling, 20th-century style, began in 1806 when Napoleon's amateur soldiers beat the professional soldiers of Prussia at the battle of Jena. When your business is selling soldiers, losing a battle like that is serious. Almost immediately afterward a German philosopher named Fichte delivered his famous 'Address to the German Nation' which became one of the most influential documents in modern history. In effect he told the Prussian people that the party was over, that the nation would have to shape up through a new Utopian institution of forced schooling in which everyone would learn to take orders. So the world got compulsion schooling at the end of a state bayonet for the first time in human history; modern forced schooling started in Prussia in 1819 with a clear vision of what centralized schools could deliver:"
"Obedient soldiers to the army; Obedient workers to the mines; Well subordinated civil servants to government; Well subordinated clerks to industry; Citizens who thought alike about major issues."
"Schools should create an artificial national consensus on matters that had been worked out in advance by leading German families and the head of institutions. Schools should create unity among all the German states, eventually unifying them into Greater Prussia.
"Prussian industry boomed from the beginning. She was successful in warfare and her reputation in international affairs was very high. Twenty-six years after this form of schooling began, the King of Prussia was invited to North America to determine the boundary between the United States and Canada. Thirty-three years after that fateful invention of the central school institution, at the behest of Horace Mann and many other leading citizens, we borrowed the style of Prussian schooling as our own."
  President Abraham Lincoln simply said it this way:
"The philosophy of the classroom today will be the philosophy of government tomorrow."
State-Run schools have an agenda to teach children NOT to think. (Please read the ENTIRE article by Mr. Gatto I've linked to above, to fully understand the history of compulsory education.) Many parents refuse to believe this. It's unpleasant. It's sad. But it's WRONG, and parents should not sit by and refuse to see it happening. "Not in MY school district." "I live in a little town." "Stuff like that only happens in California or New York."

I hate to tell you, friends, but the curriculum and the standards are the same across the United States. The SAME textbooks, lessons, methods, and ideals are being taught NATIONWIDE. Not only can it happen, it's already been going on for more than two generations. Whistling in the dark will not change that.

Just consider that it might be true. Is that "Bad enough"?

Reason #3 Why I Think Public Education is "Bad Enough":
The current atmosphere in public schools is spiritually damaging to children of ALL ages.

I have heard countless friends, family members, and fellow church members tell me that they want their children to go to school and "be a light" to children with no spiritual upbringing. My question is: Do you really feel your 5 year old is strong enough spiritually to stand up and tell their teacher that evolution is wrong, and that Heavenly Father made the earth? Really? 

Maybe your children are stronger than mine, but I didn't have one that knew their own minds about sex, evolution, or homosexuality before the age of 12. (All of which is being forced on Kindergarten students.) At the MINIMUM. Half of what I just listed was not on their radar, as children. I guess they could have invited their atheistically-raised playmate to Primary, but how do children combat the falsehoods their teachers teach them? After all, most children love and idolize their teachers. 

Public-schooled children spend at least FOUR TIMES the amount of time with their teachers and schoolmates than they spend with their parents and siblings. They follow their rules, abide by their standards, and are not allowed to pray, mention God, or proselyte the Gospel to their friends on school property. (My little Activity Day girls recently informed me it's against their school's rules to give any of their friends a Book of Mormon on school property, and that they are not allowed to invite their friends to church or any church activities at school.) So how can they be "a light" again?

I went to public school in a small town, with a high population of LDS students. We went to release-time seminary during school hours. The seminary teachers were great, and there were some kids with high standards. But not nearly as many acted like the Latter-Days Saints they supposedly were. In my high school, you were NOBODY if you didn't have a steady boyfriend or girlfriend. Even among my "good" friends, make-out sessions and the watching of rated-R movies happened on a regular basis. Seminary was something to "ditch" or "suffer through." Music lyrics and dancing at school AND STAKE DANCES, was lewd and obscene.

The fruits of Public Schooling is not "lovely, virtuous, of good report, or praiseworthy." Public School is a spiritual trial for youth, where they only come out with strong testimonies intact if they completely distance themselves socially. How ironic.

Reason #4 Why I Think Public Education is "Bad Enough":
We undeniably live in the Last Days we've been warned about. 

On occasion, I have had a friend or associate tell me that "in the Last Days," when it's "Bad Enough," they will just send their kids to me to teach. That we could just start having classes at the church building, and that we could have positive, Gospel-based education for all the kids in the ward. Doesn't that sound great?

Those of you familiar with the scriptures should know the parable of the Ten Virgins. In that parable, was the oil available for ALL of the virgins to buy? Yes. But when did the wise virgins buy their oil? When there was NO indication that the bridgroom was tarrying. And when did the foolish virgins realize that they were short the oil they needed? When it was too late.

Now, I'm not saying that I'm better than anyone, ('cuz I'm pretty pathetic) or that I would deny anyone the help that they might need, should they choose to teach their own children at home. What I AM saying, is that like food storage, or emergency supplies, I am working on my own family's needs right now. IF I have excess, OF COURSE I will share! But I cannot give anyone the knowledge and the experience I have gleaned over the years. And I cannot turn into the only teacher for the ward's needs, should it "get bad enough." But I can do my best to encourage, to suggest things, and to help all I can. 

Yet I cannot give anyone else my oil. Each family must go and secure their own. 

What I am trying to say through this post, is that would it be so very terrible to consider that right now, today, it's "bad enough" to bring your children home? Would it be so very bad to consider learning about homeschooling as part of "Being Prepared"? Is it really so outrageous to question whether or not your local school district truly has YOUR KIDS as their greatest concern? Because I bet YOU are concerned about YOUR kids. I know that YOU have been given the stewardship over YOUR children, and not the schools.

All I ask is that you open your mind and heart to the possibility that public school is not the best option for Latter-Day Saint families.

Here are a few quotes from leaders of the Church that have reinforced and inspired me to keep homeschooling my children, even though it's not always easy. I hope they might inspire and help my readers simply CONSIDER the idea of homeschool.
"In many places it is literally not safe physically for youngsters to go to school. And in many schools – and it’s becoming almost generally true – it is spiritually unsafe to attend public schools." ~Elder Boyd. K. Packer in 1996 at the David O. McKay Symposium at BYU
"Moral values are being neglected and prayer expelled from public schools on the pretext that moral teaching belongs to religion. At the same time, atheism, the secular religion, is admitted to class, and our youngsters are proselyted to a conduct without morality." ~Elder Boyd. K. Packer, General Conference, April 1994
“Because of our sacred regard for each human intellect, we consider the obtaining of an education to be a religious responsibility. Yet opportunities and abilities differ. I believe that in the pursuit of education, individual desire is more influential than institution, and personal faith more forceful than faculty.” ~Elder Russell M. Nelson, Ensign, Nov. 1992
"Do the Saints need perfecting? Yes... People would not be found shuffling their children over into the hands of the enemy to be educated... If such people ever get into the celestial kingdom... they will find the children that might have been there with them, wallowing in misery; and those children will point up to them, if they may, and say, “Father! Mother! I blame you for this; for it was you that led me to it.” I tell you such people will sup sorrow in this world and in the world to come. Therefore, be careful how you treat your children: act the part of fathers and mothers to them, and not the part of unnatural monsters, who, having been enlightened to a degree by the Spirit of the Lord, trample under foot the things of God, and cast your offspring into the arms of the corrupt, of the evil, and of those who are seeking your life, and striving to destroy you.” ~John Taylor, Journal of Discourses, Volume 24, 12/9/1883, “The Age in Which We Live, Etc.”

Even if you feel you cannot consider homeschooling for YOUR children at this time, I hope and pray that you can now see homeschooling as something that is not as "out there" or "strange" or "crazy", as you might have thought before.

I hope you can see it as not just "do-able," but also as "desirable"-- should "things get bad enough."

With love,
Mama Rachel
 
Rachel is the happy mother of eleven children between the ages of 17and one year old. Now in her twelfth year of homeschooling, she continues to be an enthusiastic advocate for Thomas Jefferson Education principles and has spoken at several homeschool and TJEd conferences. She enjoys Shakespeare, designing and sewing Renaissance costumes, and both singing and reading with her family. She blogs at Thoughts From The Hearth and at Old Fashioned Motherhood .

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Chocolate on my Cranium said...

I loved this post when you posted it back in February and I still love it today.

And the quote by Pres. John Taylor powerful!

Priscila said...

When prophets speak it is always powerful, and I share your feelings completely. Also, I feel plain irresponsible if I do not stay home and mind my own children. What an awesome responsibility!!! And we had better meet that responsibility.

Anaise said...

I enjoyed reading this very much. Thank you.

Julie said...

I agree with you completely. I think if people knew how our public school system came about, they would at least be less trusting of it and would be ready to question/challenge it on a regular basis where their children are concerned.

Great post!

Evenspor said...

Nice.

In one of Gatto's Teacher of the Year speeches he said that public school is not failing. It is doing exactly what it was meant to do. (The kind of stuff you mentioned: teach obedience, snuff out religion, teach division of classes, etc)

I recently came across what I think is the best answer (actually a question) to Latter-day Saints about homeschooling. In a blog post somewhere about the history of schooling as it relates to Church history, one commenter pointed out that, in general, when you talk to LDS families who homeschool they will talk about being led there by the Spirit or praying about their decision, or something to that effect. How many families who send their kids to public school do you think have prayed about the decision? If they have prayed about it, and they really feel that's what's best for their family, then that's between them and God. I don't know many who have, though. I am going to be tempted to ask, next time someone says it's not right for them, for whatever reason.

Dana ♥ said...

Excellent! I love all you like-minded folks ☺

It's just as Sherry Dew says we are the Lord's secret weapon. ☺

dovh49 said...

One of my favorite quotes:

"If and when the time ever comes that parents shift to the state the responsibility of rearing their children, the stability of the nation will be undermined, and its impairment and disintegration will have begun." - David O McKay

Found in 1943 General Conference:
http://scriptures.byu.edu/gettalk.php?ID=50&era=yes

I disagree with your comment on evolution though. As David O McKay said (something like this) leave science to the scientists. We don't know how God created us. There is no reason to think that it couldn't be through evolution.

Samurai Mom said...

Thank you, This is fantastic! Now if I can just get to guts to post the link to my friends!

Swinging On Small Hinges said...

Wonderful! What a strong testimony that helps me to solidify my plans to continue homeschooling! I love associating with such strong, principled people!

Ann Agent said...

You missed one critical quote by John Taylor in your excellent post, that tells us we must be very careful WHO is our child's teacher. It is another reason why I can never send mine off to the Public Schools. It comes from Ch 10 of Teachings of the Presidents of the Church: John Taylor.

Whatever you do, be choice in your selection of teachers. We do not want infidels to mold the minds of our children. They are a precious charge bestowed upon us by the Lord, and we cannot be too careful in rearing and training them. I would rather have my children taught the simple rudiments of a common education by men of God, and have them under their influence, than have them taught in the most abstruse [or complex] sciences by men who have not the fear of God in their hearts. …

Courtney Wilson said...

Loved it then! Love it now! Thanks for being so honest!

Brandi said...

I love it, Rachel! Thank you for putting into words, many of my thoughts and feelings!

Michelle said...

This was a great read and I thank you for your thoughts.
I am not a homeschooling mother, but was homeschooled myself. To answer a previous poster who questioned if Parents who send their children to public school pray about, I did and still do. I have greatly considered homeschooling, but at the time have health problems that keep me from doing so. Thankfully I am pretty darn happy and satisfied with the public school that my children are attending, and the Teachers that they have are great! I have received the answer to prayer that I will one day homeschool, but now is not that time. In the meantime I read up on it as much I can. Thanks for a great website with great articles, even for us non-homeschooling parents. :)

The Lucas Gang said...

Such an awesome post. Very insightful. My son is only three but we have decided on homeschooling and are starting this year with preschool. This post just validated everything that my husband and I have talked about =D

Thank you for your thoughts!

Frankie said...

Amen! Thank you for sharing this post! Ever since reading Gatto's "The Underground History of American Education" and Iserbyt's "The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America" there is really no way that I can in good conscience send my children to public school.

Andrea said...

As a "retired" public school teacher, I feel uneasy about this post. It oversimplifies a lot of things. For example, the superintendent of the schools was right that closing the schools caused enormous problems for low-income families. I didn't see anywhere where he said that parents couldn't parent--just that they would be negatively affected financially. And that is true. I find it sad that so much educational policy has to be made because of two-income homes, but it is not the parents' fault or a reflection on their ability to parent because they are poor.

Sorry, this is already too long. I'm just saying that I homeschool, but homeschooling is NOT doctrine. So even though I agree with most of what you wrote, and I salute the passion with which you said it (because as a public school teacher I emphatically do agree that the schools of today are not like what most parents remember from their own school years), I still think that any implication that the gospel indicates a need to homeschool is misleading.

I'm glad that I do though!

Liz said...

Amen, amen, and amen! Thank you for this!

JRoberts said...

I quite enjoyed this. All too often I wish I was brave enough to plainly speak pretty close to the same setiments. :)

I have had many use the same thing with me about the "last days" teaching. I am pretty passionate about preparedness, perhaps that is why we were lead to homeschool. So when someone says something like that to me, I don't know what to say. I appreciate the comarison to the 10 virgins. What an appropriate way to view it. I do think part of my preparedness is to have the resorces ready for that time, but I also don't think that I am going to teach others children.

Great post.

Shelly said...

this was EXACTLY what I needed to hear!!! I was....not exactly waffling, but feeling "left out" of all the public school stuff with all my friends kids going back to school. Your post has reminded me of reasons I chose to homeschool, and put into words thoughts I have had in the past and not been able to phrase. Thank you so much!!!!

Ranee J Fratangelo said...

Thank you, today is my 5th day of Home schooling my oldest and I agree with all this. I think in the end I was just scared to start sooner, as I was just bidding my time. I am loving it though. I just hope I have enough to keep her busy!

Crystal said...

I agree with Andrea. Great post, wonderful quotes, however choosing to home school has never been gospel doctrine or even taught that it was superior to public schools in all cases. I also know people who have prayed about it and decided to send their kids to school. Great families, great parents, just not given the answer to home school.

Minx said...

Thank you for writing this. I am finishing my homeschooling of 14 years and have learned the hard way how true all of what you said is.

I am so grateful that we were prompted to homeschool and now I will continue to teach other homeschool children. I too can't teach everyone but I can hold up my light and make the space around me just a bit brighter.

Long but SO worth it. Thanks for the quotes.
Nan

Tia said...

I really enjoyed reading this post, thank you for putting your thoughts into words for us. I was homeschooled, and back in those days the first response of "Are you CRAZY?!" was more common. Now that I am homeschooling my own, more often than not I get the second response: "Wow...you're brave, I could never do that."

Andrea said...

I am so grateful for your honest words! So often we are too "careful" as to not offend others. So we say nothing at all.

We are beginning our 3rd year of homeschooling and I realize how differently I see the world now that I have my children by my side each day. My daughter's public schooled friends came over and told me about how another friend passed out again today (for the second day in a row) at school from the heat and how another student got heat stroke. I asked them, "Then why is your mother sending you? It sounds down right dangerous to be there right now." They looked at me as though they couldn't believe what I had just said! They explained that their parents didn't want them to go but knew that if they didn't, they would "get in big trouble." So rules and regulations won out over parental inspiration. It broke my heart!

Again, thank you for writing so openly. Your words inspired me to share more with others.

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Sarah said...

Wow...you were truthful when saying you had a strong opinion. I can appreciate where you are coming from(perhaps) but I have to mention that not all public schools are awful places. Not all parents have the luxury of homeschooling and many public schools still have teachers that do genuinely care about students. That said homeschooling does not always equal success. It is highly dependent on both parent and student. I homeschool my children and it was done with prayerful consideration.

julie said...

I completely disagree. Let me "'splain":

I researched homeschooling for three years, and I still chose to send my kids to a public school that I LOVE. I am not close-minded, nor do I live my life in fear. It can just as easily be said that homeschoolers live their lives in fear of what's "out there" in the public schools and in the world from what you've written. Though you say this post is not written to offend, that is what it does to all those parents out there who CAREFULLY and PRAYERFULLY consider their children's education and send them to school other than home. Your position is extreme (and from a gospel perspective, I know to know to avoid extremes) because you basically state that homeschooling is the only way to go. In fact, you infer that if they were to at least consider it, parents would realize how wrong they are to send their kids to school. You over simplify and use scare tactics to make your point. There are other valid opinions out there on the history of compulsory education - Gatto's view is not gospel!

I think there are some wonderful things about homeschooling. But I don't think the world is so evil that homeschooling is the only moral option we have.

Boyd Box said...

When I read things like this, I can't help but feel the "passion of discord". I completely respect each parent's decision to choose for themselves what is best in their situation and I guess I am naive that I believe that everyone prays over these matters, as we are to cry unto the lord over our "sheep" aka children. It just greatly saddens me when I read something that misleads people by taking quotes out of context and then harping on others for judging them while this post exposes the fact that the same goes both ways. I love that we were recently taught that tolerance is not enough. We all need to learn to love one another. Tolerance has some flavor of hate still involved. Education is the crux of the matter. In whatever way you so feel directed to help your children discover the joy of learning and to become an educated people, PURSUE IT!! And leave everyone else to judge for her or himself (on their own actions, not those of others).

Ranee said...

Amen and Amen, Rachel! Stewardship is the KEY! It saddens me to think that some people think that in order to homeschool their children, they have to do it a certain way...with no inspiration and a swiftly moving conveyor belt. Homeschooling has been so freeing for us! We do all the things most families do...read scriptures, pray together, have FHE, etc. And through that prayer, etc...Heavenly Father sends his will to us, through the power of the Holy Ghost. It's not difficult at all. I LOVED this article! I am going to post it to my FB page, because I think it should be shared. Will I be blasted by people for that??? Yes I will...and that's okay! I think this is a discussion worth having! :0)

Mama Rachel said...

Thanks, EVERYONE, for your comments, both in support of what I wrote, and for the earned criticism. I am grateful for the lessons I have learned as a result of posting this. I am writing a follow-up article to this one, and it will be posted early tomorrow morning. I hope to do a much better job this time. I hope you find something worthwhile in it!

Hugs,
Mama Rachel

Me said...

Yes, homeschooling is a personal choice but I also agree that as a homeschool parent you TIRE of hearing others scoff at your choice to homeschool your children.
I get why you wrote this article and why you said what you said. You get tired of the world telling you that you don't belong at home and that you have no business teaching your children, you need a break, your kids are bratty and... it goes on and on. Too many LDS are starting to get caught up in the anti-family slogans also. I view it as the web of lies that spread before the chains strip away our freedoms.

However, I know that just like with my choice of religion, I will have to temper my heart and have a ready answer so that my heart doesn't jump to chasten the offender. I am getting okay with people viewing me as crazy. besides, to be honest, I kinda think they are too.
One day will they look back and wish they had homeschooled their kids? Probably not, but they may wish they had had more time to prepare their kids and teach them the gospel better, which as a homeschool mom I am trying my hardest to do better as well.

I don't care if anyone else homeschools their kids or not. But as homeschooling parents we can be examples of strength and hope so others see how important the family is and choose to use their time after school with their kids to strengthen family units and teach the gospel more in their homes. After all, how we get there may not prove to be as important, but exaltation is a family matter.

Georgina Close said...

thanks for the articale was great : )


xxx Georgie xxxx

Mandy said...

Wow! I totally got shivers and totally agree! Thank you so much! And I didn't think it was one bit offensive. On the contrary; it was very inspirational and made me feel all over again that my choice to homeschool is completely right for my family! Love you!

Karina said...

I've been searching for your updated article and I can't find it. Could you help me out?

Dana ♥ said...

The update on this post is located here: http://www.latter-dayhomeschooling.com/2011/09/civil-disagreements.html

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